Submitted by Erik_Scheibe on

No Shame

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It feels like the concept of contrition is truly a thing of the past.  Ryan Braun and Anthony Weiner are both being blasted not just for their transgressions, but for the disingenous manner in which they handled their controversies.

After testing positive for steroids last year, Braun challenged the system and eventually won, I believe even going as far as getting a lab technician fired.  He then held his own little press conference gloating and crowing about his image and integrity.  Those comments will probably haunt him worse than his positive test.

Anthony Weiner, it now turns out, continued his sexting escapades even after the big press conference he held admitting his "mistakes".

It is one thing to make a mistake, it is another to express a level of indignance in how others view your mistakes.

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Rona Gura

I agree with you Erik. It's Weiner's righteous indignation that we dare to discuss the issue again that's infuriating. How much patience will ha have for those on the other side of an issue as mayor?
Corey Bearak

Though scandal has been part of campaigns dating back to the earliest days of the American democracy, until 1988 and Gary Hart, it remained mostly private until the passing of the pol. The exception - Ted Kennedy - because Mary Jo died.
As with Watergate, the coverup often becomes the bigger story and lie. That appeared at the heart of most modern scandals. Not sure what would have happened if Wiener just admitted what he had done the first time. That he lacked friends in public office to a larger degree and lacked friends in Congress more or less contributed to his demise. Driven, focused people, can sometimes lack the friends, the relationships and the ability to be around people who drive you back to the center of gravity where you remain less likely to fall down.
Mrs. Weiner when she worked for the then Senator Clinton made me look good so I always recall that.
I do not try to get into other people's relationships.
I do not believe Weiner or Braun expresses indignation. Even the best crisis control counselors (and not my job but I have had my modest moments and stand confident I can excel if presented the big opportunity I am not wishing on anyone), cannot provide words to help explain away doing something bad, stupid, dishonorable, disloyal or unfaithful, or some combination of the preceding.
Understand that in the political world, people already staked out their ground. The NY TImes already know it will not endorse Weiner; ditto Daily News. His presence in the race takes votes from, probably prevents traction for, and maybe kills any chance of certain candidates, making a runoff (if there is one -- another story -- there should not be but expect one, and Weiner's presence in the race before or after the latest revelation, offers no bearing on that analysis.) Thus supporter seize every opportunity to sully and pile on; we will see in some seven weeks how much this may matter.
Braun did the lowest thing on earth. From what I have read and heard, he wrongly got the "collector" fired. I never wish someone out of work. I passed on opportunities in my prior life to wield that power and the s--- probably earned it since he and his wife tried to get me canned. Anyway, many in baseball bare shame for allowing this scandal to tarnish baseball during most of the time I introduced it to my kids.

Submitted by Steven_Mancinelli on Wed, 07/24/2013 - 01:25

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Steven Mancinelli

Right on. Weiner's conduct speaks volumes about his character, and little of it good. He clearly refuses to accept full responsibility for his bad conduct, because he continued to do it even after being caught a year ago. Let's not forget that technically Weiner committed a crime by making a false report to the FBI that he had been hacked and accusing others. Weiner's wife is also problematic because she clearly enables him. It's much like the alcoholic who refuses to accept he has a problem with booze and the enabling spouse who is convinced she can fix him - neither one accepts personal responsibility for their conduct. I think these are people who should be kept out of the mayoral mansion.
Fred Klein

Good blog for many reasons (including its brevity). I hate the 2 Hs: Hypocracy and Hubris and these two boychiks are grossly guilty of it!
Cynthia Somma

I was thinking Lance Armstrong as well.
What infuriates me on a personal level is the stand by your man attitude and the men that ask that of their wives. Unbelievable! (Spitzer, McGreveay..). As woman we are taught to "lean in" to stand up for ourselves. I'd lean in and.....hmmmm.
Does anyone really think that helps???
Corey, I really appreciate your insight from the trenches!

Submitted by Lucas_Meyer on Wed, 07/24/2013 - 23:46

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Lucas Meyer

I find it instructive that The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal both saw fit on the same day to publish editorials telling Weiner to quit the race. That the two editorial boards were aligned happens about as often sa the return of Halley's Comet!

As I followed the scandal, I thought of a lament uttered by Colin Powell some years ago. He rued that people no longer have a sense of shame. How anyone could vote for this dirtbag is beyond me.

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