Submitted by Rona_Gura on

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As we continue in our efforts to flatten the curve, one idea has stayed in my mind. Long after we have a vaccine for the Covid-19 and we can return to work in some fashion, several habits we are creating now will remain in place. Most notably, I believe that the rise in the number of meetings we hold via video conference will continue. I believe that many types of meetings/conferences that we had previously had in person will continue as video meetings. So, my question is what is the proper dress code and etiquette for video meetings/conferences?

 

 

 

The courts have been using video conferencing for approximately two weeks. I have noticed that the dress code seems to vary immensely during these conferences, from one judge wearing a suit and blouse to another in a short sleeve white tee shirt and down vest. While most people seem to lean towards casual dress, I have been questioning myself as to what to wear up top (I’m sure most people are wearing sweat pants/leggings/jeans on the bottom). Do I wear makeup? Is a simple black long sleeve tee shirt enough? One lawyer, who knows me very well, gave me a practical piece of advice, wear your black tee shirt and put on a nice scarf. Of course, I choose a Flo Feinberg scarf.

 

 

 

And what are the behavior rules for these meetings? While on a Zoom meeting on my Ipad, I swiped right to see my other friends in the meeting (on an Ipad, you’re limited to 9 people on the screen at a time). Is that rude to do? Do the people you swiped away from know you choose to look at other people? On a recent Zoom meeting a male lawyer took off his blazer, tie, and button-down shirt. While he had a tee shirt on under the button-down shirt, I felt he would not have removed his shirt during a live meeting. Or, maybe he would have?

 

 

 

On Friday, while I was in the middle of an oral argument during a video conference, the judge got up, walked into his kitchen and poured himself a cup of coffee. I took his actions as a signal that the judge was not interested in the point I was making. And so, I quickly pivoted to something else. In a courtroom there are subtle cues one looks at to determine whether the judge is engaged in your argument. Given the video context of the conference the judge was able to give me on Friday, as what I perceived, a more blatant sign to move on.

 

 

 

How are you dressing and behaving in these video meetings/conferences? Do you find yourself dressing casually? Are you behaving more casually? What are the behavior rules moving forward?

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Corey Bearak

I would argue the nature of the meeting should dictate the dress in ordinary circumstances.
Fred Klein

When Corey sports his Met hat I am compelled to get up and don my superior Yankee hat!
Daniel Schwartz

Generally more casual as Knit shirts are common. But as Corey mentioned, the circumstance dictates the dress code. If I was having a video conference with a customer at work, I likely would wear a button down dress shirt and maybe skip the tie.
Scott Bloom

So many issues here. Keeping my comment to agreeing with Corey and Dan. Am wearing a Gotham shirt already for my only scheduled Zoom meeting today...Casual Cocktails at 4:30pm.
Victoria Drogin

It’s a new world. I always wear the same “uniform” when I teach on line - white long sleeve T. (It’s what I wore under my suits every day when the world was live). The bigger issue for me is sitting vs standing. I miss walking around while lecturing for hours. Also I find it interesting that when people use backgrounds their coffee mugs weirdly disappear into the ether. Lol. (My favorite background is in installation by Joanne Klein called “minutes” in our dining room.) love the scarf idea. I’m also a collector of Flo’s Refined Finds - gorgeous textiles. I remember we went through a video conference phase that changed the way we all did business after 9/11. All of a sudden, I wasn’t flying to California once a month. The world never went back. maybe we’re becoming more economical as everyone becomes a bit more accustomed to the tech. Thanks for the tips!

Submitted by MarilynGenoa on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 00:29

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Marilyn Genoa

I tend to be somewhat conservative I guess. I am presently wearing a suite jacket and top (not addressing type of pants :)) given that I am part of a panel of presenters for a NYSBA program this afternoon (and what is extremely cool is zoom allows us to have panelists from across the globe). I do wear what I would normally wear to something when on zoom, and to be frank have not determined whether "Robes" would be appropriate when I begin conferencing online in my role as Village Justice. Definitely casual for informal meetings and gatherings. I do hope we do not stop zooming into gotham meetings----perhaps there can be a transition which allows both when the floodgates re-open?
Rick Raymond

Go the first point, I think we, as a society, will move to more virtual meetings after COBVID. It's been great with respect to Gotham... the ability to go to Connecticut and even Queens, all within an hour. In terms of attire, I dress normally relative to my clients. Blue collar, blue collar, etc. For others, I think informal professional is appropriate. I can't see wearing a tie to a virtual meeting.. An interview, yes perhaps. My internal calibrator normally informs me how to proceed, and prefer to err on the more conservative side. I'd feel uncomfortable as the only one wearing a tie; and stupid if I was the only one with a pajama top.
Rona Gura

A judge just told me this morning that they are still working on the virtual nature of court appearances. They are very unsure as to how we might be going back.
Rona Gura

I will tell you that I have been before three judges and none have worn robes. Although, that might be because they left them in the courthouse on the last day??
Nancy Schess

A complete change in thought process and attire. But I find it important to keep my routine of getting up, getting dressed and sitting down to work.
Rona Gura

I do too. Although the half hour drive I'm foregoing in the morning is nice. And I think my skin looks better because I have barely worn make-up. . .

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