I talk not of transformation but of roads, paths, avenues we take.

The only thing I often point to as "transformative) happened when I saw the movie, "The Avenger" (a sequel to "The Trojan Horse) -- view on youtube @: http://tiny.cc/rc13hx -- which was paired at the time with "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" at the old Glen Oaks Movie Theater (now a chain drug store). Earlier that Sunday I read a few Greek and Roman myths, including the story of the Trojan Aeneas (See a previous blog by today's blogger, which I am not sure is available since it was first posted on the old site)

Reveal your failure and transformation.

I second Don's request. DJA

My transformative story occurred at the tender age of 27. I don't think there is anyone that escapes life changing events It what you do with that is the difference between success and continued suffering.

the question:
are failure and suffering the same thing?

Being cut from the Bombers. Crushing.

Judy raises an interesting question. Are failure and suffering the same thing? I don't think so but I do think that failure can cause suffering at least in the first instance. But then per Fred's currently secret failure, it can also lead to transformation.

That which doesn't Kill you makes you Stronger

Suffering and failure are definitely not the same thing. One can suffer without failing and fail without suffering.

Suffering ? Woody Allen said:" To Love is to Suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer. Not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then...Is to suffer but suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore to be happy one must love or love to suffer from too much happiness. "
What the hell could have been so terrible in your young adulthood to make you suffer? You had your health. A beautiful wife. A Juris Doctorate. A home on Rugby Road. Could you go outside and smell the roses and talk to the birds? Did the sun shine on you? Were you able to put things in perspective as a young adult? Or was this suffering something really worth calling suffering. Like kids starving...dogs being abused...etc. What the hell happened back then Fred? What is your definition of suffering ? Did you lose your baseball glove ?

Hollander Sends

My late father-in-law always said (with a German accent), "I suffer in silence."

To add onto Judy's question, does losing necessarily equate to failure and/or suffering?

Have I mentioned that I think it's a shame we can't access the blogs from the old web site?

My greatest life changing event took place when I was 18 and left home for college. I made a conscious decision to change who I was.

Judy/Nancy/Ben: interesting...and peculiar, one a verb, one an adjective...thought-provoking

I have endured much suffering in my life, none of it a result of those I love...but then why would anyone listen to Woody Allen anyway.

Suffering is much easier to speak about after it's been endured, similar to failure after it's been overcome. Speaking about it while it's happening...hmmmmm.

Lucas: Perhaps that's our greatest failure

Rona: Losing is never failure...however it is always suffering...as it should be



Rita: I'm not so sure