[Fredslist] High Test Results

Fred Klein fklein at kzrd.com
Wed Aug 24 14:51:29 EDT 2005





Below are some of the responses to my High Test request.  Thanks to the
quick responders!  I would say that we may not need to use high test
depending on our car.

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Fred C. Klein
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>From a very experienced client in the fuel biz - High octane is different
from regular but gas stations are not.  Only the usage will vary.  So,
Shell, Mobil etc are all the same.

Richard A. Pope
Financial Advisor
President/CEO

Applied Financial Group
80 Crossways Park West
Woodbury, NY 11797
(516) 677-6212 phone
(516) 677-6858

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I heard the same thing, unless you have a mazzerati or something like it
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Depends on the auto.  I have a 745i which requires high test as do my Lexus
and Audi. My old Jeep used regular per the mfg.

Richard A. Pope
Financial Advisor
President/CEO

Applied Financial Group
80 Crossways Park West
Woodbury, NY 11797
(516) 677-6212 phone
(516) 677-6858

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Klein [mailto:fklein at legal.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:40 AM
To: rpope at afgonline.net
Subject: Re: [Fredslist] High Test

But do we really need to use high test?


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Fred,

I have had personal experience, I have a BMW 530i and
see the engine performance and sound difference when
consistently using regular.  I only go to name brand
stations as well and to consistent stations for my
fill ups (unless traveling).

The issue you are speaking of, I belive, relates
individual operators.  I have  heard stories of middle
of the night actions of garden hoses being stuck down
the storage tank to stretch supply. (excess water will
highlight knocking and pinging in the
engine--solution: add dry gas (AKA gas line
antifreeze) to flush it out)

As a side note, never gas up in a new or newly
renovated gas station.  The tanks are pressure tested
with water prior to being put into operation and at
times not all of the water is pumped out. - I would
make this the 6 Month rule before usage.

I hope this helps.

All the best,

Joseph

JDM CAPITAL CORP
730 5th Avenue
New York, NY 10019
212-659-7781 ph
212-659-7782 fx
www.jdmcorp.org


Joseph DeMatteo
President
JDM Capital Corp.
730 5th Ave, 9th Floor
New York, NY 10019
Tel: 212-659-7781
Email: joseph.dematteo at jdmcorp.org
www.jdmcorp.org



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I have used high test all of my driving life and I believe it has
contributed to my cars lasting longer with fewer problems, especially
since I am not so great with regularly scheduled maintenance. Actually,
I am terrible with it. And especially in my youth, I drove my cars hard.
In the past when I have used less than premium grade, my car would knock
and ping when I turned it off. That never happened with premium.

But really I don't think it matters much if you are good with regular
maintenance and even less if you are getting a new car every few years.

As someone who has driven about one million miles, and filled up a lot
of gas tanks along the way, that is my expert opinion. lol.

Regards,
Bob Arnold, Jr.
Arnold Standard Cos.
516-678-3300 x12
F: 516-678-1515






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Not an expert opinion, but I think it depends on the car Fred. BMW's for
example, run terribly on anything less than 93 octane. Certain cars
(typically performance models) are designed for high test.



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Fred - I don't know if it's a scam or not, but with my car the owners
manual specifically calls for 93 octane.  I don't dare use any other
type of gasoline for fear of damaging an engine component (mainly
emissions) and having the manufacturer's warranty voided because of
that.  So even if it is a scam, you may not want to take that risk.

Regards,

Thomas J. Whalen
Loan Officer
Preferred Empire Mortgage Company
200 Broadhollow Road, Suite 300
Melville, NY  11747
Office:  631-396-1418
Cell:  631-807-4758
www.OurNewHouse.net
www.pemconline.com


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Fred: many many MANY different opinions are out there about
Super/Supreme/high test gas. The easiest way to determine what "grade"
of gas you should buy for your car is to look in your car's owner manual
and see what Octane Rating the manufacturer recommends for your car. For
example, my car has a turbocharger and therefore needs higher octane
fuel. Yours may not. Good luck.

Robert J. MacKechnie
System Sales / Design

Performance Imaging
550 West Avenue
Stamford, CT 06902

Main: 203.504.5200
Direct: 203.504.5212
Fax: 203.504.3153
Mobile: 914.403.1602


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Hey Fred -

The Wall Street Journal's car columnist Jonathan Welsh answered this pretty
definitively about two or so months ago, basically saying the regular gas
is
fine for almost all vehicles. There are however some car engines which do
respond better to high test gasoline (I seem to remember Jaguars and new
BMWs), but you'll have to do a search on the online to get that particular
column for the specifics.

All best, jennifer
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