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You cannot turn on the television, radio, or even your computer without hearing that another woman has come forward to claim that she was assaulted by Bill Cosby. When I see the photographs of a seventy-seven year old Mr. Cosby, I almost feel sorry for him. Then, however, I listen to the story of the alleged victims and my sympathy for him dissipates and is replaced by sorrow for his alleged victims.

 

I do not know who is telling the truth here but, either way, this is a sad tale. Either one of our most loved actors, comedians, and philanthropists was also a predator or all of these women are lying.


What I do find appalling is that a certain Los Angeles based lawyer has used this unfortunate situation to bring attention to herself. On Friday, this attorney called on Mr. Cosby to waive the statute of limitations on these allegations-many of which go back thirty and forty years-and establish a one hundred million dollar fund for these alleged victims. To me this outlandish, and legally unsupportable request, is nothing more than grandstanding by the attorney and the media should not give her the publicity she is clearly seeking.


This is a miserable story. Given the allegations these women are making it is one that should play out in a way that benefits the alleged victims-once it is established that they are victims-not attorneys seeking to make a further name for themselves by benefitting from someone else’s pain.

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Corey Bearak

I find myself not liking the woman alluded to by Rona.

And I do not believe, Fred, Van Morrison wrote of that person.

I do not believe it unfair to ask Mr. Cosby to waive any limits on seeking some "damages" on his alleged action.

What interests me and I do not know all the details: Taking Cosby reruns off the air impacts no just his Bottom Line but possible residuals for others who acted on the show including my friend Chris's brother (I'll have to query him.) and others connected with the show who might receive further payments. Should there be another way to handle these things? Are the losses of income by other just acceptable collateral damage? Should those who cashed in because of prior (and perhaps just ended) business relations with Cosby -- think Jello-O --contribute some of what they made to a victims' fund or to charities or non-profits to help battered women, Domestic violence women or some other appropriate cause.
Cynthia Somma

Can I say Gloria Allred? She is a fame monger herself.

The detective in me says follow the trail of the GHB (or whatever drug was used). There is no way he purchased it himself. The people that helped will either come forward with a conscious or come forward for $$$.
I was discussing this with my mother wondering why would he "need" to do this? Surely, he could have found willing/active particpants. She reminded me rape is not a sexual act, it's all about power.
I'm still trying to digest that.

I grew up loving this man. As I felt with OJ, say it isn't so.....

Submitted by TheodoreLanzaro on Mon, 12/08/2014 - 08:33

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Theodore Lanzaro

Cosby, the ultimate hypocrite - a man who for years lectured black youths on their behavior is now the one who needs to be told to "pull his pants up".

This is a same man who lectured Eddie Murphy that his act was too dirty back in the day. Isn't it funny that the people who act as if they are morally superior to others are most often the biggest freaks of all.
Rona Gura

Cindy, I'm with you. I really didn't know what I think about the allegations themselves. In these situations, I tend to favor the victims but I found myself questioning as to why he would need the medication. Given the power he had, he could have easily found willing partners. Your mother's words are very wise and remind me what rape is about. She's right, it's about control and there would be no control over a willing partner.

Submitted by NULL (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2014 - 08:48

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Rona, I totally agree with what you wrote, and (not being a lawyer) I don't even get how they could ask Bill Cosby to waive the statute of limitations - what power does he have to do that?
I also don't see why BC would set up a hundred million dollar fund if he sticks by his claims that he is innocent. I'm not saying he is, just saying why would he?
As to the allegations, I cannot tell you how upsetting I find them. This sentence really sums it up, "Either one of our most loved actors, comedians, and philanthropists was also a predator or all of these women are lying." Either outcome is horrifying.
I liked BC as both a kid & as an adult, I brought my kids up watching Cosby show reruns, and part of my family went to see him about a year ago in Boston. Jesse also met him at the airport! Of course, we really don't know any famous person deep down, but all he seemed to stand for seemed so good. It is all very distressing. - Stacey

Submitted by Erik_Scheibe on Tue, 12/09/2014 - 16:39

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Erik Scheibe

I am a big believer that where there is smoke, there is fire, and as such, it would seen unlikely that he isn't guilty of at least some of these allegations. One thing that does bother me, however, is that it seems to me that all of these incidents took place decades ago in the 70's or earlier. I don't believe I have heard one instance (and I absolutely could be wrong as these allegations are all over the place), where there was any physically forced conduct. It seems like most of the allegations I've heard go somewhere along the lines of, "I went back to his dressing room, we were drinking wine, he offered me this pill and I took it. Next thing I know we were having sex."

I may be a little naïve because I am extremely anti-drug, but wasn't the culture in the 60's and 70's extremely pro-drug. How do we adjudicate something from a completely different era and culture. Is there any accountability for someone who willingly took a drug, whether they knew what it was or not, particularly if they did not reject the "assailant's" advances? It is interesting that they don't even deny that they willingly took the drug. They could have just lied and said that he slipped it into their drink which would be the most sinister of transgressions. If you willingly take something that leaves you incapacitated, aren't you at some level responsible for what happens to you?

I also have heard that a lot of this renewed scandal was instigated by a young comedian who may know one of the victims and who publicly created a huge scene in attacking Cosby on stage about these alleged abuses. I also will not use his name because of the sketchy manner in which the allegations were made public.

I'm not saying that he is a good guy or that the things he did were OK, but how would he possibly defend himself at this point.

...and Gloria Allred is scum.

Submitted by Erik_Scheibe on Tue, 12/09/2014 - 16:43

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Erik Scheibe

I would also fall back to the numerous allegations made towards Bill Clinton. Why is everyone so willing to bury Bill Cosby for something that happened 40 years ago, but they will not even address the accusations made about Bill Clinton which were clearly more violent, immoral and sexually egregious. Somehow we can no longer watch reruns of The Cosby Show, but Bill Clinton can still be welcomed as a legitimate guest on TV, at conventions and even on campaign trails. Seems a little hypocritical.

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