<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<base><base><div><font color="#1b1b1b">Vincent Russo\u2019s son, Robert, got a nice shoutout in yesterday\u2019s NY Times, from his long-time \u201cboss,\u201d former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton:</font></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); color: rgb(27, 27, 27);">"And as you know, I have a wonderful theater critic close to me \u2014 Rob Russo, who is one of my longest-serving colleagues. We saw </span><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/theater/review-yiddish-fiddler-on-the-roof.html?searchResultPosition=2" title="" data-reader-unique-id="142" class="" style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;">\u201cFiddler on the Roof\u201d in Yiddish,</a> <span style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); color: rgb(27, 27, 27);">which was amazing.</span><font color="#1b1b1b"><span style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27);">\u201d</span></font></div><div><font color="#1b1b1b"><span style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27);"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#1b1b1b">Some of you may know Robert posts a Broadway e-newsletter periodically; the article focuses on Sec. Clinton as Broadway\u2019s "Most Famous Superfan"</font></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#1b1b1b"><span style="caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27);">See the entire article below my email signature. Vincent is copied on this email so you can send your directly Kudos to him, or email him at vincent@vjrussolaw.com.</span></font></div><br><div>
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But she doesn\u2019t have the \u201cgumption\u201d to see herself depicted just yet.</h2><div class="metadata singleline" style="margin-top: -0.7em; margin-bottom: 1.45em; max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); color: rgb(27, 27, 27); font-family: -apple-system-font; font-size: 20px;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-weight: bold; max-width: 100%; font-size: 1em !important; display: inline !important;" class="">By <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-paulson" data-reader-unique-id="206" style="text-decoration: none; margin: 0px; color: var(--body-font-color); max-width: 100%; font-size: 1em !important; font-weight: normal !important; display: inline !important;" class=""><span itemprop="name" data-reader-unique-id="207" style="margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; font-size: 1em !important; display: inline !important;" class="">Michael Paulson</span></a></div><span class="delimiter" style="margin: 0.07em 0.45em 0px; padding: 0px; max-width: 100%; font-size: 1em !important; display: inline !important;"></span><time datetime="2020-10-02T14:20:46-04:00" data-reader-unique-id="208" class="date" style="margin: 0px; font-weight: bold; max-width: 100%; font-size: 1em !important; display: inline !important;">Oct. 2, 2020</time></div><div data-reader-unique-id="16" style="max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); color: rgb(27, 27, 27); font-family: -apple-system-font; font-size: 20px;" class=""><header data-reader-unique-id="17" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-testid="photoviewer-wrapper" data-reader-unique-id="19" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-testid="photoviewer-children" data-reader-unique-id="24" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><figure aria-label="media" role="group" itemscope="" itemprop="associatedMedia" itemid="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject" data-reader-unique-id="25" style="margin: 1.4em 0px; max-width: 100%; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.5em;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="26" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><picture data-reader-unique-id="27" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 3),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 3dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 288dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=600" data-reader-unique-id="28" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 2),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 2dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 192dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1200" data-reader-unique-id="29" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 1),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 1dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 96dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1800" data-reader-unique-id="30" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><img alt="Hillary Clinton backstage with Andr&eacute; De Shields and other members of the cast of the Broadway musical &ldquo;Hadestown&rdquo; in June 2019." src="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 600w, https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 1024w, https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 2048w" sizes="((min-width: 600px) and (max-width: 1004px)) 84vw, (min-width: 1005px) 80vw, 100vw" decoding="async" itemprop="url" itemid="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02HRC-THEATER-2/02HRC-THEATER-2-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale" data-reader-unique-id="31" style="max-width: 100%; margin: 0.5em auto; display: block; height: auto;" class="" data-unique-identifier=""></picture></div><figcaption itemprop="caption description" data-reader-unique-id="32" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.8em; width: 705px;" class=""><span aria-hidden="true" data-reader-unique-id="33" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class="">Hillary Clinton backstage with André De Shields and other members of the cast of the Broadway musical \u201cHadestown\u201d in June 2019.</span><span itemprop="copyrightHolder" data-reader-unique-id="34" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class=""><span data-reader-unique-id="35" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><span data-reader-unique-id="36" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Jenny Anderson/Getty Images</span></span></span></figcaption></figure></div></div></header></div><section name="articleBody" itemprop="articleBody" data-reader-unique-id="64" style="max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(27, 27, 27); color: rgb(27, 27, 27); font-family: -apple-system-font;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="65" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="66" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="67" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Hillary Clinton has long loved theater \u2014 back in the day, she wore out a \u201cCamelot\u201d cast album and got standing room tickets to the original production of \u201cHair.\u201d</p><p data-reader-unique-id="68" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">In the years since the 2016 presidential election, she has become Broadway\u2019s best-known fan, showing up regularly to see big musicals (she liked <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/theater/aint-too-proud-review-the-temptations.html" title="" data-reader-unique-id="69" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cAin\u2019t Too Proud\u201d</a> so much she returned with her husband) and small plays (she raves about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/31/theater/what-the-constitution-means-to-me-review.html?searchResultPosition=7" title="" data-reader-unique-id="70" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cWhat the Constitution Means to Me\u201d</a>). Between 2016 and the 2020 theater shutdown, she saw 39 shows in New York.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="71" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">The theater world, of course, is now in crisis. Because of the pandemic, it remains unclear when Broadway and other professional stages can reopen.</p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="73" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="74" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="75" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Mrs. Clinton talked with me about her relationship to theater, and about the challenges facing the art form we both love, in an interview for Offstage, a New York Times digital series. These are edited excerpts from our conversation, which included questions relayed from readers.</p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="78" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="79" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="80" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="81" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">We\u2019re speaking in the middle of a pandemic. There\u2019s a presidential campaign. Wildfires in the West. Is it OK to be talking about art?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="82" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">It\u2019s more than OK. I think it\u2019s necessary. Art is not a luxury. It is a necessity, to feed the human spirit and mind, but also to undergird culture and the questions we ask ourselves. In a way, we need theater more now than ever, because we need to be reminded that we are all a part of a bigger story. And for me, the bigger story right now is how we see ourselves, how we treat each other, how we care for each other, how we govern ourselves. We need art to help guide us because there are very conflicting points of view right now.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="83" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="84" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I understand you were in a few shows during high school.</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="85" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Well, yes, but only if I didn\u2019t sing. That was so humiliating. My high school was staging \u201cBye Bye Birdie.\u201d I knew the drama teacher. And he goes, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll tell you what Hillary, you can be in the production, as long as you don\u2019t actually sing.\u201d I really did, and still have, just a pretty sad voice for singing.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="86" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="87" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">After 2016, we started to see you a lot in the audience on Broadway. Is it an escape? Is it therapy? What\u2019s the rationale?</strong></p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="90" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="91" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="92" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I really needed to get replenished. I felt so drained and hollowed out by the 2016 election. Everything that happened, it seemed almost a very bad play. Cue the Russians. Cue Comey. Cue WikiLeaks. It just never seemed to end. And so I did seek solace, as well as replenishment, by going to the theater quite often.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="93" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="94" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">And did you find it?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="95" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I did. I did. Now, I will tell you that the first couple of times that I went, it was very challenging, and even a little painful, because there were so many people who came up to see me who wanted to share their feelings about the election. It became not only what was happening on the stage, but what was happening in my interactions with people at the theater.</p></div></div><div data-testid="photoviewer-wrapper" data-reader-unique-id="97" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-testid="photoviewer-children" data-reader-unique-id="102" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><figure aria-label="media" role="group" itemprop="associatedMedia" itemscope="" itemid="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject" data-reader-unique-id="103" style="margin: 1.4em 0px; max-width: 100%; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.5em;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="104" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><picture data-reader-unique-id="105" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 3),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 3dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 288dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=600" data-reader-unique-id="106" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 2),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 2dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 192dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1200" data-reader-unique-id="107" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><source media="(max-width: 599px) and (min-device-pixel-ratio: 1),(max-width: 599px) and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 1),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 1dppx),(max-width: 599px) and (min-resolution: 96dpi)" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1800" data-reader-unique-id="108" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><img alt="Members of the cast of &ldquo;Come From Away,&rdquo; a Broadway musical that resonated with Clinton, who was a United States Senator on 9/11." src="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale" srcset="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 600w, https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 1024w, https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp 2048w" sizes="((min-width: 600px) and (max-width: 1004px)) 84vw, (min-width: 1005px) 60vw, 100vw" decoding="async" itemprop="url" itemid="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater3/merlin_118416746_56130a69-4f42-41e7-9e9f-55dabc2ce43a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale" data-reader-unique-id="109" style="max-width: 100%; margin: 0.5em auto; display: block; height: auto;" class="" data-unique-identifier=""></picture></div><figcaption data-reader-unique-id="110" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.8em; width: 705px;" class=""><span aria-hidden="true" data-reader-unique-id="111" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class="">Members of the cast of \u201cCome From Away,\u201d a Broadway musical that resonated with Clinton, who was a United States Senator on 9/11.</span><span itemprop="copyrightHolder" data-reader-unique-id="112" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class=""><span data-reader-unique-id="113" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Sara Krulwich/The New York Times</span></span></figcaption></figure></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="114" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="115" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="116" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="117" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">How do you choose what to see?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="118" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I want to see the big productions because that\u2019s always a kind of a lift. But I also want to see a broader range of theater \u2014 Off Broadway as well.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="119" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">When I saw <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/theater/review-three-tall-women-glenda-jackson-albee.html?searchResultPosition=1" title="" data-reader-unique-id="120" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cThree Tall Women,\u201d</a> I was just blown away. I was stunned by how powerful that was. When I saw <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/theater/the-ferryman-review-broadway-jez-butterworth.html?searchResultPosition=3" title="" data-reader-unique-id="121" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cThe Ferryman,\u201d</a> I could not get out of my seat, because I\u2019d been involved with the peace process in Northern Ireland, and just the rawness of that story. When I saw <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/theater/the-bands-visit-review-broadway-tony-shalhoub.html?searchResultPosition=2" title="" data-reader-unique-id="122" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cThe Band\u2019s Visit,\u201d</a> I was really touched by the story, having been to Israel and Jordan and the Middle East so many times. And when I saw<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/12/theater/come-from-away-review.html?searchResultPosition=1" title="" data-reader-unique-id="123" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class=""> \u201cCome From Away,\u201d</a> having been senator on 9/11, it was just a touching and very joyful remembrance of such a horrible experience. </p><p data-reader-unique-id="124" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="125" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">One thing we know about theatergoing is that for many people it\u2019s learned from their parents. Did you try to introduce Chelsea to theatergoing?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="128" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Absolutely. She, like me, loved musical scores, and we listened to a lot of that growing up. She loves the theater, and goes regularly. And then for my granddaughter\u2019s fifth birthday, her mom and I took her to see \u201cFrozen.\u201d She was just wide-eyed.</p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="130" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="131" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="132" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="133" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">We have some questions from people who have signed up to watch. Brittany wants to know of the shows you\u2019ve seen, do you have a favorite?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="134" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class="">Some of the plays that I just mentioned are favorites because of the way that I connected with them. And some performances, like <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/theater/hadestown-review-broadway-anais-mitchell.html" title="" data-reader-unique-id="135" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cHadestown\u201d</a> \u2014 I loved <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/theater/hadestown-andre-de-shields.html?searchResultPosition=1" title="" data-reader-unique-id="136" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">André De Shields,</a> who won the Tony Award. And there are some that I would see again because I found them provocative, thrilling, entertaining \u2014 all of the things that I look for when I go to the theater.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="137" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="138" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">How do you decide whom to bring with you?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="139" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class="">One of the last things I saw before the shutdown was <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/theater/tina-turner-musical-review.html?searchResultPosition=3" title="" data-reader-unique-id="140" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">the Tina Turner musical,</a>which I thought was so much fun. I went with six of my friends from out of town. We were going to have dinner together. We were going to go shopping together. And that\u2019s what they wanted to see because Tina Turner was a big part of their growing up too.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="141" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><font size="5"><b><i>And as you know, I have a wonderful theater critic close to me \u2014 Rob Russo, who is one of my longest-serving colleagues. We saw <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/theater/review-yiddish-fiddler-on-the-roof.html?searchResultPosition=2" title="" data-reader-unique-id="142" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cFiddler on the Roof\u201d in Yiddish,</a>which was amazing</i></b></font><span style="font-size: 20px;">. Several of my friends had said, \u201cYou need to see this.\u201d And I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t understand Yiddish.\u201d They said, \u201cBelieve me, you\u2019re going to be blown away by it.\u201d</span></p></div></div><div data-testid="photoviewer-wrapper" data-reader-unique-id="144" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-testid="photoviewer-children" data-reader-unique-id="149" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><figure aria-label="media" role="group" itemprop="associatedMedia" itemscope="" itemid="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/03/arts/02hrc-theater-4/02hrc-theater-4-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject" data-reader-unique-id="150" style="margin: 1.4em 0px; max-width: 100%; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.5em;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="151" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="152" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><img src="cid:0B48FAC9-5B99-4B4E-9D9F-81A59257CBB8"></div></div><figcaption data-reader-unique-id="153" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.8em; width: 705px;" class=""><span aria-hidden="true" data-reader-unique-id="154" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class="">The Clintons backstage at \u201cHamilton\u201d in 2016. Hillary Clinton has seen the show multiple times on Broadway, as well as once in Puerto Rico.</span><span itemprop="copyrightHolder" data-reader-unique-id="155" style="max-width: 100%; margin-top: 0.25em; margin-bottom: 0.25em;" class=""><span data-reader-unique-id="156" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic</span></span></figcaption></figure></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="157" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="158" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="159" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="160" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">One of the shows we haven\u2019t talked about yet is \u201cHamilton,\u201d which I think you saw Off Broadway, and on Broadway, and then in Puerto Rico.</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="161" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I think I\u2019ve seen it, I don\u2019t know, three additional times on Broadway. And then Bill and I were in Puerto Rico after the terrible damage of the hurricanes. The Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative were working with Puerto Ricans to re-establish services. And so we coordinated our visit to go when <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/theater/hamilton-puerto-rico-lin-manuel-miranda.html?searchResultPosition=3" title="" data-reader-unique-id="162" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cHamilton\u201d was still being performed in San Juan</a>. It was electric.</p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="164" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="165" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="166" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="167" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">A few dramatists have started writing about you. Last year a play called </strong><strong data-reader-unique-id="168" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/18/theater/hillary-and-clinton-review-laurie-metcalf-john-lithgow.html?searchResultPosition=3" title="" data-reader-unique-id="169" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cHillary and Clinton\u201d</a></strong><strong data-reader-unique-id="170" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""> imagined your 2008 campaign in an alternate universe, and then there was a musical called </strong><strong data-reader-unique-id="171" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/theater/soft-power-review.html?searchResultPosition=1" title="" data-reader-unique-id="172" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cSoft Power\u201d</a></strong><strong data-reader-unique-id="173" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""> that featured a character named Hillary Rodham Clinton who dances and sings and eats a lot of ice cream.</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="174" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">(Laughing) Well in my house, the dancing, singing and eating ice cream does go on. [But] I have not had the courage to go see anything about me. Sometimes in a pre-existing production, somebody will have a reference to me, and I obviously catch that. But to go and see a play about me \u2014 I haven\u2019t gotten the gumption up to do that yet.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="175" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="176" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">You saw \u201cThe Inheritance,\u201d a play about generations of gay men in New York. There are scenes around the 2016 election \u2014 a brunch where they\u2019re talking about the expectation that you\u2019ll win, and then they\u2019re watching the results and not happy with how it\u2019s going. I wonder what it was like to sit through that.</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="177" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">It was painful, because we all know now what we\u2019ve had to live through over the last nearly four years and the pain and real suffering that so many Americans have felt was potent. To see the end of that first long act of <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/theater/the-inheritance-review-broadway-matthew-lopez.html?searchResultPosition=8" title="" data-reader-unique-id="178" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(65, 110, 210); max-width: 100%;" class="">\u201cThe Inheritance</a>\u201d be sort of circled around my loss was incredibly touching. And as I say, painful to me.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="179" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="180" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">As you know, this is a really difficult time for artists financially. Do you think the government has a role to play?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="181" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Yes, absolutely. I don\u2019t understand why a second large recovery package hasn\u2019t already passed the Congress. They certainly have time to rush through an ill-advised Supreme Court nomination, and they don\u2019t have time to take up the act that was passed in the House called the Heroes Act.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="182" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="183" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">The issue of racial justice is reverberating in the theater world. I wonder if you have advice for theater industry leaders who are grappling with concerns about equity?</strong></p></div></div><div data-reader-unique-id="185" style="font-size: 20px; max-width: 100%;" class=""><div data-reader-unique-id="186" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><p data-reader-unique-id="187" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Well, first I\u2019m glad they\u2019re grappling, because the moral reckoning [is] long overdue \u2014 everyone would, I think, admit that. There are lots of good ideas that are being put forth now about how to make the theater more diverse, and not only the actors and the stage hands and everyone who puts on the production, but the audience. And then of course, when it comes to reaching out to playwrights and actors and script writers and score writers \u2014 whoever is part of a production \u2014 cast a wider net, be more adventurous, be more provocative, see what\u2019s out there. And the final thing I would say is, every one of us has to ask ourselves, are we free of implicit bias?</p><p data-reader-unique-id="188" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="189" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">What do you think will make you feel comfortable going back into a theater?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="190" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">I\u2019m going to be cautious. I\u2019d have to be sure that what was being produced and presented had taken every precaution. And I think that\u2019s gonna take a while.</p><p data-reader-unique-id="191" style="max-width: 100%;" class=""><strong data-reader-unique-id="192" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Allegra asked a question I wish I had thought of which is, would you ever be a Broadway producer yourself?</strong></p><p data-reader-unique-id="193" style="max-width: 100%;" class="">Well you never know, Allegra. I\u2019m certainly open to it. I\u2019ve got a podcast; I\u2019m interested in producing good content. I think it matters what stories are told and who the stories are about. And I want to be part of that in some way. So stay tuned.</p></div></div></section></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>