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| | | July 4th | |
| | | by Fred Klein on July 4th, 2008 | |
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| | | Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, members of the committee which | |
| | | drafted our magnificent Declaration of Independence, both died 50 | |
| | | years from the date of the July 4th 1776 declaration on July 4th, | |
| | | 1826. | |
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| | | Jefferson's last words were "Is it the fourth?". He died at 1220 | |
| | | PM. Adams survived until 6:00 PM that same day and his last words | |
| | | were "Thomas Jefferson survives." Without email or cell phone how | |
| | | could he know he was in error. | |
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| | | What does survive is the freedom they sought and secured. No matter| |
| | | what our present situation is at home and in the world, it is a | |
| | | great country! Have a wonderful Fourth of July, and Happy Birthday | |
| | | America! | |
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| | | The above is my annual July 4th message and last year Gothamite | |
| | | Charlie Schreiber added that in 1831 James Monroe, our Nation's 5th| |
| | | President, also died on the 4th of July. In 1850 our 12th | |
| | | President, Zachary Taylor participated in July 4th activities at | |
| | | the Washington monument. It was a blistery day and the president | |
| | | became quite ill. He died five days later on July 9th. | |
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| | | I suppose I should also add that July 4th is also New York Yankee | |
| | | owner George "The Boss" Steinbrenner's birthday. Does anyone have | |
| | | any other Independence Day Trivia? | |
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| | | Happy Fireworks Day! | |
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| | | Even though this is a repeat blog....it's still interesting. | |
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| | | Happy 4th everyone! | |
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| | | Posted by David | July 4th, 2008 08:22:13 AM | |
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| | | We all know our birthday. Did you ever wonder your conceptionday? Well I | |
| | | did and as best as I can figure, since my birthday is March 30th, 9 months| |
| | | previous (give or take) is July 4th. And that figures, as my father was a | |
| | | Damon Runyon figure (see Father's Day Blog) who was never home. However, | |
| | | July 4th being a national holiday, he had no excuse for not being home and| |
| | | the rest, as they say, is history! | |
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| | | Posted by Fred Klein | July 4th, 2008 09:22:56 AM | |
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| | | no trivia. happy 4th! enjoy the summer. | |
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| | | Posted by julie | July 4th, 2008 10:16:10 AM | |
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| | | Here is my historical comment, long winded but necessary: | |
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| | | John Adams and Jeffeson both attended the Continnental Congress. Jefferson| |
| | | did pretty much nothing and spoke little. Adams was the leader and most | |
| | | eloquent force behind the drive of independence, even when other members | |
| | | still wanted reconciliation with England. | |
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| | | It was Adams who assigned the task of writing the declaration to | |
| | | Jefferson, which he first offered to Franklin but which Franklin declined | |
| | | because of a bad case of gout and Franklin also didn't want to draft | |
| | | something that would be edited by a commitee. It turns out that | |
| | | Jefferson's draft was modified by Adams and Franklin and then the full | |
| | | Congress. (Even the words that the truths we hold are "self evident" into | |
| | | the draft; they did not come from Jefferson.) The Congress spent two days | |
| | | editing and changing about 20% of Jefferson's draft. | |
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| | | But even before that, in May 1776, it was Adams who drafted a resolution | |
| | | listing the oppressive conduct of Britain and stating that for the | |
| | | "preservation of intenal peace, virtue and good order; as well as for the | |
| | | defense of their lives, liberties and properties," the "United Colonies | |
| | | should adopt such governments best to conduce to the happiness and safety | |
| | | of their consituents of americans." According to Adams, the subequent | |
| | | Declaration was an ornamental afterthought. | |
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| | | By early July, independence was already a foregone conclusion. On July 2 | |
| | | the Congress had already passed a resolution by Richard Henry Lee stating | |
| | | that the united colonies "are, and of right ought to be, free and | |
| | | independent states." Adams considered that vote the defining moment and | |
| | | said that July 2nd will be "celebrated by succeeding generations as the | |
| | | great festival.......with pomp and parade...bonfires and | |
| | | illuminations...for this time forward forevermore." | |
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| | | Yet, giving Jefferson credit where credit is due, the first fifty-five | |
| | | lines of the Delaration, which were almost entirely his, turned out, as | |
| | | historian Joseph Ellis says, to be "the most potent and consequential | |
| | | words in American history," even if the founders did not notice that at | |
| | | the time. | |
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| | | So here is the point of all of this. Jefferson is remembered by most | |
| | | people for two things: writing the Declaration and the Louisiana Purchase | |
| | | (forget the Sally Hennings thing). For this he has his own a monument in | |
| | | Washington that is surpassed only by Lincoln's, and he is on some money. | |
| | | Adams has his face on nothing, and has no momument. Not even a plaque. | |
| | | (This would make Adams crazy to know this) His legacy is that he succeeded| |
| | | Washington. It is sad considering that most historians rank Adams among | |
| | | the top and most important figures in our revolutionary history along with| |
| | | Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. | |
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| | | So, when Adams said "Jefferson lives" as his last words, he was, as Ellis | |
| | | says, "wrong for the moment, but right for the ages." | |
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| | | Adams said this to each of us today, and it should be remembered. | |
| | | "Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present generation to| |
| | | preserve your freedom! I hope you will make good use of it! If you do not,| |
| | | I shall repent it in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve | |
| | | it!" | |
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| | | On this July 4th, it is worth giving thanks to that generation, including | |
| | | Mr. Adams. | |
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| | | Posted by Donald Bernstein | July 4th, 2008 11:51:40 AM | |
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| | | Donald...that was awesome. Thanks for the history lesson! Happy | |
| | | Independence Day! | |
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| | | Posted by David | July 4th, 2008 12:39:07 PM | |
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| | | I think she was a Hemmings, but I am sure that our national motto:E | |
| | | pluribus unum--"out of many,one"--continues to be an ideal we can all | |
| | | aspire to and a true guiding light for our nation. | |
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| | | Posted by Founding Father | July 4th, 2008 01:08:52 PM | |
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| | | we attended the July 3rd NY Philharmonic concert at Avery Fisher Hall | |
| | | which included a joint performance with the US Military Academy Band. | |
| | | Program notes are worth reading at | |
| | | http://nyphil.org/meet/archive/index.cfm?page=eventDetail&eventNum=1561&se| |
| | | asonNum=7 | |
| | | Did not realize it was the first joint performance since 1964, but we were| |
| | | taken during the playing of a medlay of our Armed Services Hyms as one | |
| | | audience member (an older fellow) stood during the Coast Guard Hym, more | |
| | | during the Air Force Hym, and the Navy, and the Army Hym (I stood proudly | |
| | | along with 20 others), and during the Marine Hym, and finally during the | |
| | | standing ovation at the program's concluding Stars & Stripes Forever, when| |
| | | the crowd did not rush out but stood there applauding for each curtain | |
| | | call and finally as the Band and the Philharmonic played it one more time.| |
| | | Extraordinary. | |
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| | | Posted by michael appell | July 4th, 2008 11:11:26 PM | |
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| | | I did something yesterday I've never done before: We spent part of | |
| | | Independence Day with two Britons (neighbors). They were absolutely | |
| | | fascinated with our history, and actually knew very little about what was | |
| | | being celebrated on July 4th (and these are well-educated people). | |
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| | | Here's my trivia: In our national anthem, the "rockets red glare, the | |
| | | bombs bursting in air..." actually refer to a battle in the War of 1812, | |
| | | not to the War of Independence. | |
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| | | Hope everyone had a nice holiday. | |
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| | | Posted by Lucas Meyer | July 5th, 2008 11:56:31 AM | |
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| | | Thanks to all you history buffs...very impressive and interesting. | |
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| | | I did something I rarely do on the 4th - went to the Yankees game. Not | |
| | | until I was actually there did I fully get how tres americaine it all was.| |
| | | (It only happened 'cause friends were in town, but what the hey.) We heard| |
| | | the well know army guy sing God Bless America. Great tenor. Saw the | |
| | | Steinbrenner birthday post - most apt, je pense'd. Later that night | |
| | | watched the fireworks in the East River from a great view high up in the | |
| | | UN Millenium. Alas, among all the food and many desserts laid out for us | |
| | | there was no apple pie - but there was a great lemon meringue which we | |
| | | thoroughly enjoyed. And of course I talked to my mom. I guess that about | |
| | | wraps it up. There's no trivia like one's own, is there?! | |
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| | | Posted by Iris | July 8th, 2008 12:11:31 AM | |
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